{"id":141230,"date":"2019-06-05T21:20:40","date_gmt":"2019-06-05T21:20:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sftarticles.wpenginepowered.com\/en\/?p=141230"},"modified":"2025-07-01T21:50:17","modified_gmt":"2025-07-02T04:50:17","slug":"avengers-endgame-depressed-thor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cms-articles.softonic.io\/en\/avengers-endgame-depressed-thor\/","title":{"rendered":"Why &#8216;Endgame&#8217; Thor is so important"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-141266\" src=\"https:\/\/articles-img.sftcdn.net\/sft\/articles\/auto-mapping-folder\/sites\/3\/2021\/05\/Marvel_Studios_Avengers_Endgame_Special_Look.00_00_05_04.Still001_jzobih.jpg\" alt=\"Endgame Thor\" width=\"700\" height=\"291\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>* SPOILERS BELOW *<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>People deal with grief in different ways, and many of them are not healthy. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marvel.com\/movies\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Marvel&#8217;s<\/a> &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/avengers-endgame\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Avengers: Endgame<\/a>&#8221; starts Thor off in a bad mental place, where he is stewing in his failure to properly behead the mad Titan. He&#8217;s off in the corner of the room, not saying a word, and when it comes time to face Thanos again he decapitates him before the rest of the team is ready. He flies off and that&#8217;s the last we see of the thunder god until five years later &#8211; five years that were less than kind to him.<\/p>\n<p>The ending of &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/avengers-infinity-war\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Avengers: Infinity War<\/a>&#8221; is the biggest tragedy in the history of the universe. Billions of organisms (remember, it&#8217;s all life; not just people) are turned to dust. The Avengers failed to save the day. The bad guy succeeded in his plan, and then he got away. They didn&#8217;t even get to &#8216;avenge&#8217; the fallen properly. It&#8217;s a crippling blow for our heroes&#8217; morale, and for Thor, it was even worse since, at least in his mind, he&#8217;s the only one who might have been able to stop Thanos (&#8220;should&#8217;ve gone for the head&#8221;). It was a particularly bad time for the Asgardian to fail once again. We&#8217;re shown a candid perspective of Thor&#8217;s mental place before he forges Stormbreaker during a conversation with Rocket. Even as far back as then, the poor guy really needed some therapy:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/VrQjWr8bKQw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3>Tasteless jokes?<\/h3>\n<p>We go from Thor in the above scene to the aforementioned dark and brooding Thor at &#8220;Endgame&#8217;s&#8221; start. Then we shift to five years later when he&#8217;s put on some pounds, let his hair grow unkempt down to his shoulders, and, as War Machine puts it, &#8220;has Cheez Whiz running through his veins.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>After the emotional turmoil of &#8220;Infinity War&#8221; this is how we approach Thor? Jabs at his weight and insensitive remarks? It wasn&#8217;t the decision to make Thor fat that caused such a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.themarysue.com\/problematic-character-depiction-avengers-endgame\/?fbclid=IwAR22pm5G6XK2mLLFKe1A19jFZiZMMSKmQAtPa2kFOsLA27u1QfbBpZF2uck\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">backlash from fans<\/a>; it was the constant jokes made at his expense. Was fat Thor a weak attempt to inject some humor into an otherwise dark story?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_141235\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-141235\" style=\"width: 700px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-141235\" src=\"https:\/\/articles-img.sftcdn.net\/sft\/articles\/auto-mapping-folder\/sites\/3\/2021\/05\/Avengers-Endgame-Chris-Hemsworth-reveals-the-WORST-part-about-039Fat.jpg\" alt=\"fat Thor Avengers Endgame\" width=\"700\" height=\"415\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-141235\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thor drowning his sorrows in what looks like some delicious guacamole.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"sc-card-starred-link\">\r\n  <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__body\">\r\n    <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__row clearfix\">\r\n      <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__col-logo\">\r\n        <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sc-card-starred-link__img\" src=\"https:\/\/w2w-images.sftcdn.net\/image\/upload\/t_cover\/movies\/avengers-infinity-war\/avengers-infinity-war-cover.jpg\" width=\"100px\" height=\"100px\">\r\n      <\/div>\r\n      <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__col-title\">\r\n        <p class=\"sc-card-starred-link__title\">Avengers: Infinity War<\/p>\r\n        <a class=\"sc-card-starred-link__button\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/avengers-infinity-war\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer sponsored\">Watch Now \u25ba<\/a>\r\n      <\/div>\r\n    <\/div>\r\n    <a class=\"sc-card-starred-link__link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/avengers-infinity-war\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer sponsored\"><\/a>\r\n  <\/div>\r\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"sc-card-starred-link\">\r\n  <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__body\">\r\n    <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__row clearfix\">\r\n      <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__col-logo\">\r\n        <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sc-card-starred-link__img\" src=\"https:\/\/w2w-images.sftcdn.net\/image\/upload\/t_cover\/movies\/avengers-endgame\/avengers-endgame-cover.jpg\" width=\"100px\" height=\"100px\">\r\n      <\/div>\r\n      <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__col-title\">\r\n        <p class=\"sc-card-starred-link__title\">Avengers: Endgame<\/p>\r\n        <a class=\"sc-card-starred-link__button\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/avengers-endgame\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer sponsored\">watch now \u25ba<\/a>\r\n      <\/div>\r\n    <\/div>\r\n    <a class=\"sc-card-starred-link__link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/avengers-endgame\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer sponsored\"><\/a>\r\n  <\/div>\r\n<\/div>\n<h3>Thor faces new challenges<\/h3>\n<p>Thor is depressed. Not only that, it&#8217;s a welcome example of <strong>depression being portrayed in a realistic way<\/strong>: Thor isn&#8217;t sitting in the dark alone and crying. He&#8217;s with his friends; he&#8217;s laughing, he&#8217;s partying. But when it comes time step up and face the trauma that&#8217;s digging at him, <strong>he is stubborn and afraid<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>On the character&#8217;s evolution, director <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0751577\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Anthony Russo<\/a> voiced that Thor&#8217;s arc in &#8220;Endgame&#8221; is one of his favorites. &#8220;It&#8217;s so devious and subversive,&#8221; he said proudly, &#8220;when comedy is coming from a place of complete commitment and emotional complexity.&#8221; It&#8217;s an unexpected turn for the normally godlike character, and it shows one of the angles that Stan Lee was most keen to convey: <strong>It&#8217;s not your powers or prowess that make you a superhero; it&#8217;s who you are as a person.<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_141237\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-141237\" style=\"width: 700px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-141237\" src=\"https:\/\/articles-img.sftcdn.net\/sft\/articles\/auto-mapping-folder\/sites\/3\/2021\/05\/shirtless-thor-chris-hemsworth-1105644-1280x0-1.jpg\" alt=\"Thor: Ragnarok Chris Hemsworth shirtless\" width=\"700\" height=\"400\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-141237\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This shirtless scene in &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/thor-ragnarok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Thor: Ragnarok<\/a>&#8221; was played for a much different effect.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The main villain of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/iron-man-ii\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;Iron Man 2&#8221;<\/a> wasn&#8217;t Whiplash or Justin Hammer. It was Tony Stark and his own personal issues. Thanos is still a huge threat in &#8220;Endgame,&#8221; but the first two acts of the film are more about <strong>showing how our heroes deal with failure<\/strong>. Thor is an excellent example of this deeper, internal conflict, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm1165110\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chris Hemsworth<\/a> was not afraid to play it to its limit. &#8220;I like that anything goes. You&#8217;re not locked into expectations,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I enjoyed that version of Thor. It was so different than any other way I played the character. And then it took on a life of its own.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"sc-card-starred-link\">\r\n  <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__body\">\r\n    <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__row clearfix\">\r\n      <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__col-logo\">\r\n        <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sc-card-starred-link__img\" src=\"https:\/\/articles-img.sftcdn.net\/sft\/articles\/auto-mapping-folder\/sites\/3\/2018\/12\/stan-lee-192.jpg\" width=\"100px\" height=\"100px\">\r\n      <\/div>\r\n      <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__col-title\">\r\n        <p class=\"sc-card-starred-link__title\">How Stan Lee created Marvel\u2019s complex characters<\/p>\r\n        <a class=\"sc-card-starred-link__button\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/articles\/how-stan-lee-created-marvels-complex-characters\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer sponsored\">read now \u25ba<\/a>\r\n      <\/div>\r\n    <\/div>\r\n    <a class=\"sc-card-starred-link__link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/articles\/how-stan-lee-created-marvels-complex-characters\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer sponsored\"><\/a>\r\n  <\/div>\r\n<\/div>\n<p>Originally, the intent was that Thor would regain his godlike physique before the final showdown with Thanos. However, Hemsworth stressed that <strong>he would instead like the character to remain overweight<\/strong>, a sentiment that a more lazy actor would never have voiced; putting on that fat prosthetic was no cakewalk (pun slightly intended). &#8220;It was certainly exhausting,&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/entertainment\/chris-hemsworth-fat-thor-avengers-endgame\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">said the actor<\/a>. &#8220;I had weights on my hands and ankles just to have my arms and legs swing differently when I shuffled along through the set. Physically, it was a good three hours in hair and makeup. Then the prosthetic suit, particularly for the shirt-off scene, that was a big silicone that weighed about 90 pounds.&#8221; The decision to keep &#8220;fat Thor&#8221; throughout the movie is one of the defining reasons we think the choice was made for more than just cheap comedy.<\/p>\n<h3>Why it&#8217;s so important<\/h3>\n<p>There isn&#8217;t one right way to be hero, and everyone deals with depression differently. Thor&#8217;s at his lowest point &#8211; where can he go from there? &#8220;Endgame&#8221; screenwriter <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm1321655\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Christopher Markus<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/avengers-endgame-writers-fat-thor-164511414.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">reflected<\/a> that &#8220;we wondered &#8216;okay, well, what if he does become a sort of depressive alcoholic?&#8217; And the weight gain was just part and parcel of that state of mind. We didn&#8217;t go, like, &#8216;let&#8217;s chunk him up; it&#8217;ll be hilarious.&#8217; I think <strong>he is the ideal Thor at the end of the movie<\/strong>, and he&#8217;s carrying some weight.&#8221;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_141241\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-141241\" style=\"width: 700px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-141241\" src=\"https:\/\/articles-img.sftcdn.net\/sft\/articles\/auto-mapping-folder\/sites\/3\/2021\/05\/thor-beer-main4-1.jpg\" alt=\"Thor Dr. Strange beer\" width=\"700\" height=\"394\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-141241\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thor&#8217;s alcoholism didn&#8217;t come from nowhere. It makes sense that depression would ramp it up.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Thor&#8217;s got a problem for sure, but it&#8217;s his mental state. <strong>It isn&#8217;t his weight.<\/strong> For all the snipes and jokes made at the expense of his bloated figure, the action on-screen never presents Thor&#8217;s bulging stomach as an actual problem. It&#8217;s merely <strong>a symptom of the mental illness<\/strong> he&#8217;s struggling to live with. To emphasize that point, Thor is still able to summon Mjolnir during the scene with his mother, Frigga. &#8220;I&#8217;m still worthy!&#8221; he cries out in surprise.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sc-card-starred-link\">\r\n  <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__body\">\r\n    <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__row clearfix\">\r\n      <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__col-logo\">\r\n        <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sc-card-starred-link__img\" src=\"https:\/\/articles-img.sftcdn.net\/sft\/articles\/auto-mapping-folder\/sites\/3\/2019\/05\/thor-192.jpg\" width=\"100px\" height=\"100px\">\r\n      <\/div>\r\n      <div class=\"sc-card-starred-link__col-title\">\r\n        <p class=\"sc-card-starred-link__title\">Are you worthy enough to wield Thor\u2019s hammer?<\/p>\r\n        <a class=\"sc-card-starred-link__button\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/articles\/thor-hammer-quiz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer sponsored\">Take the quiz \u25ba<\/a>\r\n      <\/div>\r\n    <\/div>\r\n    <a class=\"sc-card-starred-link__link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/articles\/thor-hammer-quiz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer sponsored\"><\/a>\r\n  <\/div>\r\n<\/div>\n<p>When Thor comes out to face Thanos during the final fight, he&#8217;s not magically thin. He&#8217;s got his beard in a neat braid, he&#8217;s got lighting coursing through his body, and he&#8217;s as strong as ever. He needed to get back in the fight mentally. He needed to face his demons firsthand. <strong>He didn&#8217;t need a treadmill and a stalk of celery.<\/strong> The fact that there intentionally is <em>not<\/em> a physical transformation for Thor speaks volumes about the Directors&#8217; decision: <strong>Depression and apathy don&#8217;t have anything to do with body weight, and neither does curing it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thor&#8217;s character arc has taken him to a new, unexpected place of power and self-confidence. As per his mother&#8217;s advice, he&#8217;s stopped trying to be the person he&#8217;s supposed to be, and started becoming who he is.<\/p>\n<p>As for what&#8217;s next for the thunder god, Hemsworth excitedly stated &#8220;I&#8217;d still love to do more, to be honest. And I don&#8217;t know what the plan is. I feel like we&#8217;ve opened up such a different character. I feel more energized for the possibility of where it could go.&#8221;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_141245\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-141245\" style=\"width: 700px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-141245\" src=\"https:\/\/articles-img.sftcdn.net\/image\/upload\/c_scale,q_auto:eco,w_700\/v1559767154\/editorial\/fat-thor-mjolnir-stormbreaker-1897816.webp\" alt=\"Endgame Thor Mjolnir Stormbreaker\" width=\"700\" height=\"415\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-141245\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thor is stronger now than ever before. Ever &#8216;BeThor?&#8217;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Does this mean he&#8217;ll be keeping the weight in what the character endearingly called the &#8220;Asgardians of the Galaxy?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em>Let us know in the comments below if you&#8217;d like to see more &#8220;fat Thor&#8221; in future films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and we&#8217;ll see you in theaters for &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/watch\/movie\/spider-man-far-from-home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Spider-Man: Far From Home<\/a>!&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"sc-related-articles-white\">\r\n<p class=\"sc-related-articles-white__title\">More about Mental Health<\/p>\r\n  <div class=\"sc-related-articles-white__row\">\r\n    <a title=\"Social media worse for mental health than we thought \u25ba\" href=\"https:\/\/en.softonic.com\/articles\/social-media-worse-for-mental-health-than-we-thought\">\r\n    <div class=\"sc-related-articles-white__article\">\r\n      <div 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